What utter nonsense

General Durrani’s abominable comment about Indian Muslims

General Mahmud Ali Durrani has a column in today’s The News. He holds forth — as is his wont and what earned him the sobriquet of General Shanti in Pakistan — on the importance of Track-2 talks between India and Pakistan, as exemplified by Aman ki Asha. Among all the other apple pie and motherhood stuff, one particular bit stood out. And stood out for its outrageous abominableness.

We often forget that there are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan. We also seem to ignore that the quality of life of the Indian Muslims is directly linked with the quality of the relationship between our two countries.[The News]

What utter nonsense. Nearly a decade back, MJ Akbar wrote a piece titled Pakistan cannot expect the support of India’s Muslims.

Indian Muslims are the only Muslims in the world to enjoy sustained democracy since the freedom of their country from colonial rule. Muslim nations, particularly Pakistan, have been unable to fashion a polity relevant to the modern age, with governments accountable to a democratic process. …Indian Muslims use democracy with vigour and finesse. They control or influence the results of elections in at least a hundred seats in the Lok Sabha – the House of the People – the directly elected part of India’s Parliament…[Link]

Are there no problems with India’s Muslims? Yes, there are. On the one hand, there are fundamentalists among them and some of them have even been involved in terrorism. On the other, as a community, their challenging social, economic and educational conditions have been well-documented in the report of the Sachar Commission. But these conditions have little to do with the state of India-Pakistan relations. Leave alone Pakistan, the Muslims from the rest of India have never stood out in support of Kashmiri separatists, who portray their cause as Islamic. Forget the rest of India, even Muslims from the neighbouring Kargil region have never supported the separatism in Kashmir Valley.

How can General Durrani, who must have been in the army then, forget what happened in August 1965? Ayub Khan launched Operation Gibraltar, a plan to provoke uprisings in Jammu and Kashmir by infiltrating teams of military personnel to conduct sabotage and prod the Kashmiri people against Indian forces. The Kashmiris did not co-operate with the Gibraltar Force and the plan failed. The same thing happened in 1999 when there was no support from locals for Pakistani incursions into Kargil.

Anyway, this is not the first time General Durrani is spouting such nonsense. He was at it even in 2009, after the Mumbai terror attacks. What is really tragic that we have a vocal community of Indian Track-2 participants who consider him to be an India-friendly Pakistani activist. If he is India-friendly, then imagine what others in that country would be like.

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12 Responses to What utter nonsense

  1. Carlos de Souza December 20, 2012 at 6:15 am #

    General Durrani is a typical Pakistani Islamist….a fanatical moron.

    What’s distressing is the “community of India Track-2 participants” who burn candles at the Wagah border. They are naive gullible fools. And, they make India look foolish.

    However, they are a small albeit inflential minority. Most Indians don’t think like them.

  2. historylover December 20, 2012 at 10:37 am #

    I think you are being too harsh on Durrani .
    For the hinduvtva lobby , the muslims of India are potential fifth columnists. Why is the a popular riot slogan “Either goto Pakistan ya qabristan” . Remember Modi refers to Mian musharraf and at other time Mian Ahmad patel . So he is right in that sense that better relations between India and Pakistan will lead to less hatred for muslims from hinduvtva wadis and thus better quality of life for Indian muslims.

    • Renu January 10, 2013 at 9:26 pm #

      Hi Lover, in India, there are no entities by nomenclature “Indian Muslims” . In India its citizens are referred to as “Indians” and it is inclusive of every Indian who may follow any faith as his private personal choice. Like there may be some like you entertaining the idea of sub-nationalism within the nation which they hope would lead to another partition and birth of another theocratic shitty entity with its people dreaming 72 virgins like Durrani !

  3. Pradeep December 20, 2012 at 12:15 pm #

    No hyphenation whatsoever between Indian Muslims and Pakistani muslims. Pakistan, please take a hike, you have a shit hole of a country which you wanted. Dont pull our citizens into your mess. You made it, either you clean up or disappear of the face of earth. The later is much preferred, thank you.

  4. Lt Col GV Sreedhar (retd) December 20, 2012 at 10:11 pm #

    From the day one, every thing is wrong with our politicians who have no interest in international politics. Their interest has always been eying for popularity in the world at large and eye on the next election. Present day politicians have grown in an atmosphere of vote bank policy be it dalits or Muslims. Muslims in India are a class apart the rest of their community world wide. They are Indians firstly and then anything else. Indians of all religious denominations live in harmony, respect, essential qualities of humanity like love, friendship and mutual respect. All religious unrests have its roots in politician’s hand not so much “foreign hand”. The quality of political outfits in our country is based upon middle of the road leadership. Less said about our politicians is better.
    Starting with the number one leader in our democratic establishment till today one major trait has been, their passion for the Chairs how ever big or small the Chair it was/is positioned. Our country has survived because of three major entities, The Armed Forces, very few great Lovers of India including those selfless freedom fighters in the formative stage and most importantly the poor and innocent millions of Indians. Our third rate politicians have mastered the art of manipulating these millions to get votes, remaining Lovers of India are untiringly moving against the tsunami of dirty politicians of all colors with very little effect and as regards Armed Forces the last resort of any Nation has been battered by Neta-Babu combine from day one. These Neta-Babu combine have least idea of Military, but handle/manipulate day & night this most sensitive but at the same time most loyal to the flag entity. Muslims are there in every walk of life: be it politics, administration, policing, armed forces, foreign missions, educational institutions, industry, to name few arena. Inter religion marriages, partnership in business, living in neighborhoods, closer in friendship(the best of human quality), holding highest positions in the country, for that matter take any and every human endeavour, we all are Indians first and then any other thing.
    But our politicians and bureaucrats are very of mediocre caliber. While not wishing to compare our leaders with international leaders, none of our top leaders have that conviction, vocabulary, courage, liberty so the force in their speech in front their adversary be it: Parliament, Assemblies, public functions, political/election speeches and the least at bilateral discussions with neighboring country leaders or worst at International Forums. Their halting speeches have least content of relevance; consistency only demonstrates their stupidity and emptiness. A look at the panel discussions reflects all these aspects, they are a bunch of paid armchair philosophers, nominated speakers persons and some good for nothings straining their lungs at every opportunity in quarrelsome tones to the tune/tone set by the anchors behaving like jokers shrieking in between, having no respect or concern for the viewers. This is the reason for every Pakistani leader often come to our country and talk what ever they feel, make fun of us, highlight our weaknesses and humiliate us with out demure/modesty and get away with some winning note. This being the state of affairs of our democratic merit/maturity, how can we proclaim loudly to the world comity that Indian Muslims are Indians at all times and warn one and all not to meddle with our Muslims?
    There is one hope: if the next General Elections throw up a bold, strong and fearless leader he can shut the foul mouth of Pakistanis for ever.

  5. RN Singh February 24, 2013 at 3:16 pm #

    Very well said Lt Col GV Sreedhar sir..You have hit the nail on its head..The neta-babu nexus has let the country down always..I would even say that Indians are fortunate to have an army like ‘Indian Army’ guarding its integrity..Lest our countrymen realise this fact..

  6. test March 17, 2013 at 4:52 pm #

    I’ve said that least 631301 times. SCK was here

  7. Sravan March 25, 2013 at 1:03 am #

    But can we deny that to some extent, the hatred among Muslims in general populace is directly due the fact that we have had a very tense and hostile relatin with Pakistan? I don’t understand if you are denying that fact.
    Improving Indo Pakistan relations to some extent decrease that hatred.
    This is my opinion from my own experiences talking and understanding people around me.

  8. Hyderabadi May 29, 2013 at 5:41 pm #

    Muslims of India love Pakistan, regardless of what you say. We are all brothers, always support Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bengaledesh and other Muslim countries. Infact, Hyderbad joined Pakistan during Partition but was invaded by Indian Hindu troops, killing and ending the royal family of the Nizam of Hyderabad and his royal army. Somehow Hyderbad was invaded on the basis of Hindu majority (revealing Indian founding father’s sectarian bias), yet Kashmir was invaded although in all right it belonged to Pakistan on the basis of muslim majority. Indian Muslims had enough of the duplicity and communal nature of Hindus, we want independence and freedom. Here is hoping one day to see the Pakistani flag over Hyderabad, Incha’ Allah. We love Pakistan here, freedom for Kashmir, Hyderabad, and all Muslims suffering under Hindu occupation.

  9. Renu June 3, 2013 at 6:24 pm #

    Hi Hi…

  10. Gwidon September 4, 2013 at 12:29 pm #

    If Muslim want to live in other country than India they need to behavior like other. When we go to india we’re not disturb they religion, so why muslims are so angry?

    • alok asthana November 11, 2013 at 7:54 pm #

      Gwidon – It is because the muslims we are talking about ( Indian muslims ) are NOT ‘ living in someone else’s country’ and they ‘don’t come to India’. They constitute India as much as Hindus do. They get their rights by the constitution of India and not as a charity provided by anyone.
      This realization makes all the difference.

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