At last the pay commission is now finally shut
After setting the services into a state of disgust
The guys have fumed and cried
The initial euphoria has finally died

The tears have been partly wiped with a kerchief
After committing a great mischief
The Defence guys are rolled back in status
As the acts are the outcome of many a Brutus

Police guys are making now merry
While defence guys have to eat rotten berry
Some guys see it as some type of victory
Although entire thing could be some trickery

A separate pay commission is planned for defence Force
Those on top have no remorse
The present top brass would soon retire
After putting the guys into a blazing fire

The guys have to see the real truth with open eye
And wash off the minds off the color dye
These guys can never score over the civilian men
Although they write million pages with a pen

Dr K Prabhakar Rao

Sumit
thing has been brushed under carpet. A bit of threat from A ministry and the chiefs infact developed cold feet. Now every one has fallen in line. What can you expect from such situation? They are helpless too. Why should they spoil their pension and final promotions after such a long obstacle course? The DGP has become senior to Corps commander. Soon DGP would become equal to Army chief. The day is not far off. Better start commissioning with Lt Col and get rid off all lower ranks.. Suck thumbs till guys retire from service. Nothing would move.Sorry bad luck

The top guys have no clue
They are stuck to seats with glue
At ministers call they develop flu
Their faces turn at once blue

Tolerant

Its a deep rooted babudom and Congress conspiracy to kill many birds with one stone,

Congress Intrest:

not only to enhance stature in the eyes of the minority but to belittle the Indian army….which though not openly but covertly has been pro BJP.

Babubom ( IAS/IPS Lobby)

We know the outcome of the recent pay commission, how shockingly the stature and presedence vis a vis the IAS/IPS lobby has been reduced. Now the F***ing Beuracrats gleefully arrest a Serving (Decorated) Lieutnent Colonel and parade him like a terrorist.
There is no evidence whatsoever on these cooked up charges and all it is serving is giving an oppurtunity
to The Thugs to belittle the Olive Green.

I am the son of a Major General ( Retired ) and a senior IT professionals I had an experince where I was hauled up by head constable on some cooked up traffic violation charges just beacuase i talked abot senior reference of Serving senior officers. Its seemed the police team there all ganged up on me just to prove a point.

I see a distinct change in attitude of the police post arrest of Lieutnent Colonel Purohit. And my city is not even in Maharastra.

“The reverence and Awe of the Olive green seems have vaporised post arrest and hauling of The serving Lt Colonel.

THE ARMY SHOULD NOT HAVE HANDED OVER A SERVICE LT COLONEL TO A STATE POLICE WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE ANY ENQUIRY BY POLICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN VIA THE MILITARY POLICE IN A CANTONMANT. IF CONCRETE EVIDENCE WAS TO BE FOUND THEN THE ARMY SHOULD HAVE COURT MARSHALLED HIM. TAKEN AWAY HIS RANK.. THEN HE SHOULD HAVE FACED CIVIL COURTS.

“IS THE INDIAN ARMY EVEN AWARE THE HUUUGE DAMAGE THIS INSIDENT IS CAUSING TO ITS PRESTIGE AND REVERENCE”

I HOPE SENIOR DEFENCE PERSONNEL ARE READING THIS

Thanks appreciate if a cc is sent to my mail id. lukemendes@gmail.com

regards
Luke

Can someone elaborate?

Are they waiting for the final tit bits?
Or ready to pack off with their kits
When a soldier has to fight for his dues in a land
Know that countrys future would be in deep sand

Clue less

The service officers have to be careful about the reason that they state when they apply for voluntary retirement.

The most popular reason which many give is the sickness of aged parents and the requirement of looking after them. Some give taking care of property and lands which are are in risk if unattended. If some one states that he is disillusioned with service and there is no growth and no useful purpose would be served by continuing further, the applications would be surely rejected for telling truth. truth is hard to digest and is a naked fact.
No one wants to accept the truth including the serving snobbish service officers. By accepting such reason, the governmnet or Ministry of Defence would be accepting their own defeat, position and failure and such reasons are not thus accepted. That means governmnet does not want any thing on paper about their failures in promoting the service and making it lucrative as no 1 service. Though they advertise DO YOU HAVE THAT ( SPUNK) IN YOU? they prove after few years that most of them are useless by the time they are about 40 to suffer eternally. They already decide inintially to condemn great percentage by 40 years for none of their fault. It is no doubt competetive in terms of rat race to put things straight. If some one misses board three times , he can always state that he has missed the boat three times and hence he wants to quit. hat will be acepted and governmnet is happy to accept that the officer himself has stated that he could not make to the rank through boards and thus was condemned and the condemnation is accepted by him. Thus govt wants to relieve the officers after they accept their condemantion.So Govt is happy and plays safe.It is self defeating in purpose,theory and in practice and probably immoral too. The reasons for missing the boat could be varied, debatable in most of the cases, determined by circumstances and goofed up by the much controversial draconinan ACR system and whimsical and unceratin guys at top. Difficult to digest indeed. This has ruined scores of bright men in services in past and continues to do so like a bull dozer. In fact service is a bull dozer ready to ruin scores by their forties. The MOD of course flatly denies and states all is well. Redressal itself is debtable and very poor. The guys who reached top positions would not accept the shortcomings because they are in better positions and turn a Nelsons eye to real problems. If the cupboards are opened rotten and stinking skeletons would roll in many thousands. The eye sockets of skulls would stare at the COAS who remains unmoved. Redressal itself is debatable and poor. The same is not true for IAS men. Every one who joins almost makes to joint secretary equivalent to Maj General. Rather army equates Major General to Joint Secretary and not other way. IAS men are not interested to equate with army ranks because they are ruling the land. They are least bothered. It is army that is running after equations and feeling satisfied externally. The joint secretary looks very young with hardly 20 years service while the Major General looks exhausted, mostly blad with weathered look with atleast threee decades of service behind and sagging under sword and baton outwardly twisting his moustache. Of course he and his ego is satisfied with the red star plate and some type of flag on a staff car. The flashing red light on the roof satisfies his ego fully that are not authorised to IAS men mostly.
In nut shell, the service men wanting to call it a day have to tell real lies to get out before getting condemned after three boards. As Jaswant singh stated he wanted to join politics all can not do. If every one states probably it becomes a joke. Some poor should hang on for the tit bits and the time scale rank of Colonel to atleast to take a photograph ith weathered look and feel satisfied. When he comes out he is rotten and becomes dead wood ( drift wood) forcibly , the legacy of defence services. Better luck in next life is the answer.
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Many years ago officers put on Cross belt that was the ceremonial outfit. Basically the cross belt was a support for the main belt across the waiste when Sword is hung at side. Sword was the standard dress item for all officers. In IMA also guys do drill with sword. During on of the drill parades years ago in IMA when I pulled out sword from the scabbord Only hilt came out while the blade remained in scaboord. The drill master was wild and I had to take his wrath. After many years Cross belt was removed from the dress. Officers put on normal dress with main belt and the trouble some belt across the chest was removed. Some were happy and many were grim. A ceremonial symbol was removed while Police retains. The police guys copy army symbols without any shame including flag presentations, star plates bonnet flags . Why army and police ranks should be similar is not clear.In Punjab police used to have a turban. In south constables used put on shorts. Now every guy wants to copy army with fatigues too, Army keeps looking helplessly. Sad day indeed. We have buckled for some ones self glory and retirement oppertunities. In turn the entire set up has sunk.

Col ( Retired) DR K Prabhkaar Rao

True. the dynamism is only in advertisement when it says “Do you have in you?’. “Then join army as commisioned officer”. It must also say, ” Then get condemned with in 20 years. Develop BP and Sugar too. There ends the matter. Guys get trapped and slog for years. It is some thing good now where officers are picking up the selection rank of Lt Col at about 14 years. During our time we had to slog and almost at more than twenty years when one is ready for time scale, guys boards were held. Not much spunk is left in him whe he becomes a Lt col at the age of about 45 years. Lot of hair has been lost and develops wrinkles. He is half dead already. Now it is slightly better. Only a shade.
But what is the use? Cadre review has ruined the value of the rank.

The guy in the academy is clue less

And is ignorant what awaits him ahead

As the years roll on the guy gets rotten

devoid of thrill in life he earns his daily bread

Army at the time of recruitment must make it clear that most of them would be condemned by the system and made useless before they turn 40 years. They are not allowed to leave, made to hang on dejected, frustrated and fed up because army is not able to get in more. They need the guys to fill up the posts here and there although condemned. Exit plicy should be clearly specified. If the guys are allowed to leave easily without fuss, many would like to join. The present army exit policy if at all anything is there is counter productive. This policy is very important for atleast capt to Lt Col and Colonels too. Rest will turn dead wood while in service and remain ceremonial. Whether they stay in and or go out no difference it would make. I symapthise with you for the great inconvenience you faced. But life is like that.Be brave.Try and acquire additional educational university qualifications that will help you outside. Army courses and qualifications are like scrap paper. None shall care for them. You may be from staff college or Ptsc and Psc, Ldmc, Sdmac, all these certificates wiuld be put in dust bin. There are scores like you suffering. They shall never tell others to join. Better for them to do some computer degree and go abroad and earn money. here neither you can earn money in a dignified way nor you enjoy the status. At best at week end you can hang around in RSI or DSO club, have some booze and eat pea nuts and alu chips and be happy on your two wheeler. Outside a guy with hardly any years service travels in atleast Hunadai Verna with a driver as soft ware enineer and beats it out at four star and fiver star joint. That is the difference. He works five days and no foolish bossing over by some funny and clueless guy.In army every two years one get trapped under some new whimsical strange and funny guy, many damaging too.Some may be good. Sudenly you get condemned because you have not given him a party at your house before June with chicken and a bottle of foreign liquor.There are ample of experiences behind the curtain. Reality is this. How can it attract fresh talent. God bless such victims. Omen

Kindly refer to the recent killing of an air force officer by a n advocate some where in North India. It came out in News papaer. Another air force officer wsa gravely injured. The whole thing was due to an altercation while driving vehicles. Poor Air force officers were as usual unarmed and were in cvil dress when the goon attacked with a knife. What a tragedy. A very valuable life was put off. Why this happened. Like army air force guys are always unarmed in civil clothes although they are authorised pistols as a personal arm .They keep getting rusty in Kot.Probably the other guy would not have dared to stab if the air force officer tried to save himself with a pistol. But he was helpless. In civil society most of the goons even if educated carry illegal weapons like knives and pistols particularly in North India where respect for law is much less. Wake up guys. Protect yourselves from your own country men and criminals. Police mostly can not protect you as they themselves are putting you in lock ups.What a shame.There is some meaning in getting killed by enmey in action , but definately not in getting killed by our own police and normal criminals in society.